Considering my friend Dax and I were teenage boys, getting up early to fish was never a chore. Dax’s mother was more than happy to get up and drive us to Shermanbury Place (a distance of about twenty-five miles from home) looking back I think she wanted to encourage more wholesome activities like fishing rather than the more troubling pursuits that sixteen year old boys were attracted to, best to say no more on this issue but fags, girls and booze was high on the agenda.
Setting off at dawn to fish is an experience that I will never tire of and I can remember this particular trip so well. This was my first real experience of fishing a specimen carp lake, the excitement and anticipation while been driven through the beautiful Sussex countryside has stayed with me to this day. Although I was now obsessed with carp fishing this had not fogged my appreciation for nature and its landscape and that particular morning was a classic misty summers dawn with a chill in the air, the sun was very low in the sky and shrouded in heavy mist, the tones were mid-greys and yellows as we sat in the car, smoking roll ups.
When we arrived I found the lake and surroundings to be a vision of perfection, the mist was still heavy and we soon found a spot where reedmace surrounded the whole end of the lake apart from two small breaks, perfect for us to set up and fish.
Before I tackled up I threw in a few handfuls of my new bait, strawberry flavoured boillies, even the sound of the boillies dropping into the water gave a new and satisfying scatter-gun sequence of plops, punctuating the stillness of the morning. I set two rods up, one with a boillie close in to the far side by the reeds and a second float rod just to my left baited with sweetcorn.
Looking beyond the reeds I could see the outline of a trimmed hedge with a gap and beyond that a manicured lawn that dissolved into the mist, it was ghostly but for now my attention was focused on the emerald-green water and the occasional knocking reed signifying life below. This was a different type of angling experience, enhanced by the knowledge that some very large carp were present and because the lake was relatively small they were not far away from my bait, it made the whole experience electric.
As the morning progressed the sun started to burn off the mist and in front of me past the reed bed and through a break in the hedge I could see the silhouette of Shermanbury Place, I was experiencing Arcadia emerging from the greys,whites and oranges of a summers morning.
Shermanbury Place
Back in my swim there were more signals from the monster below but nothing was taking the corn or the strawberry temptations so by mid-morning we decided to explore the rest of the lake. Walking around I was surprised to see there were other anglers already set up, these carp anglers were not like the wheelbarrow pushing types we get today more focused on comfort than watercraft, these men of the 1980’s were quiet, discrete, loners and armed with a bare minimum of gear, the only indication of their presence was the occasion ‘bleep’ . I set up with just one rod now partnered with my only Optonic and kept low and quiet like the others, foolishly I felt holding a float rod did not seem the correct thing to do amongst these men of specimen carp.
By late-afternoon I was really not convinced anything was going to happen and our lift home was due at around five. While sitting on the dusty bank in my ripped faded old jeans I smoked and thought about this magical place, catching was not on the agenda today but something more important had happened, I had become entranced by large carp. As I moved small piles of dust around on the bank with my fingers creating patterns on the bank my Optonic burst into action, a run! Line spilled off the Mitchell 300 spool and ran through the rings making the monkey hit the rod as hell let loose. Looking up I could see line shooting through the water towards the opposite bank, then it stopped. My chance had gone.
Since that day I have never returned to Shermanbury Place and I don’t want to as it was my Arcadia. Since 1986 a lot has happened in carp fishing and this lake could have become ‘commercialised’. On a positive note I can’t find anything on the Internet about this place, perhaps it has gone back into private ownership to one lucky individual?

It is in private hands and never fished.
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In a way I’m quite glad that is now the case, I could see it could have been ruined by commercialism.
TTS
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I have just read your story about the lake in the grounds of Shermanbury place. To the best of my knowledge Mr and Mrs Greenwell had never allowed anyone to fish their lake. I know this to be a fact as I stayed at Shermanbury House for over a year and although I was allowed to fish the lake, it was not known as a ‘carp’ lake. Until very recently, I know that Mr William Greenwell does not permit fishing in the lake.
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Dear Gordon, I would have fished this lake around 30 years ago, when we fished it there were other anglers present. I remember we paid for a day permit but I can’t remember who picked up the money, soon after I left Sussex and never returned. Just out of interest did you catch any of the carp? Something I failed to do.
Regards
TTS
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Hi TTS – I only used very light tackle for roach, rudd, bream etc and unfortunately I didn’t see any evidence of carp. I am still in touch with William Greenwell and hope to going there soon. Can you remember which side of the lake you fished from, was it the the house side or the bank on the opposite side ?
Regards Gordon
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Well Gordon, it was a long time ago as I mentioned, but I do have a distinct image in my mind that I first fished an end swim that faced over the lake and looked up to the house, as in the photo. Later we walked around and fished towards an island (possibly?) with my back to the house. Does this sound about right?
all the best
TTS AKA Nick
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Well all this is interesting reading, I used to fish there back in the 1980’s, the last time I fished there was 1986, I used to get there on a white Honda moped, I wonder if anybody remembers my moped parked up outside the gate that we had to get over to get to the lake? Last weekend the 19th March 2016 I was driving home and happened to be going past Shermanbury Place and with time on my hands I drove in to be nosey to see if it was still all there. To my horror and disappointment I found the place to be very derelict. I almost wished I had not bothered as the memories I had of the place were happy sunny ones and catching lots of fish, it was a well stocked lake. I think the family has moved out as I didn’t see a single soul. The lane you drive down has almost turned back to soil and is almost impossible to drive on without an off-road vehicle. I do remember William Greenwell, a big fat man with a pot belly and a bit odd by nature. Can anyone throw any more light on this interesting subject?
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Hi, Yes your right unfortunately it has been badly neglected Mr William Greenwell has no interest in the lake,Whilst i was staying there i did do a lot of work on the lake and the banks (the house side) I have been back down there a few times and will be going again soon, so will hope have a chat with Mr Greenwell and perhaps shed some light on the future of Shermanbury place.
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Nice to hear from you Gordon and updating me on Shermabury Place, please keep me posted, perhaps with a photo?
Regards
Nick
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William’s Funeral
William’s Funeral service is at St Giles’ Church, Shermanbury on Friday 4th February 2022 at 1:30 pm
4th February 2022 at 1:30 pm
St Giles’ Church Shermanbury
Brighton Road, Horsham RH13 8HB
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I’m sorry to hear the news of William.
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Hello,
Gosh – what interesting reading!
I am William Greenwell’s niece, and my grandparents bought Shermanbury Place in 1958.
I have fond memories from my childhood of talking to the fishermen around our lake. My annoying dog would sometimes escape and play chicken with the fishermen on the drive. My jjob in the summer holidays was to issue permits.
Unfortunately William lost his way, and couldn’t manage.
It is very early days, so I can’t predict the future, but my family and I are keeping all fingers crossed that we will be in a position to restore Shermanbury and the lake to its former glory.
Please do come and say hello if you are walking along the bridlepath.
Antonia
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Hi Antonia, I would love to drop by at some point. Would it be possible to send me a photograph of the lake today when you have a moment, thanks for getting in touch, Nick
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I would be happy to send photos once we have restored the lake and returned the farm to its former glory.
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Hello Antonia,
Gosh it feels surreal stumbling across this thread and I’m so pleased to see your own comments. We met as children when my Dad, Gordon (in thread) was working for your Grandmother and Uncle – to stay there for us during school holidays and weekends was a great adventure – fried eggs on cabbage with roast chicken care of your Gran, crab apple collecting, swimming, fishing and exploring the gardens day and night, often accompanied by Rollo and Rowan to keep us feeling safe. Your family were kind and saw that as South London children this was entirely enchanting and exciting for us and we felt encouraged and welcome. I visited a few times over the years as an adult and I passed by and met your mum (who kindly provided lunch) I think a year after your Gran had passed away. I once landed a helicopter there but William wasnt home, but my last meeting with William was great fun, hearing military stories from your familys history.
If you are keeping Shermanbury I think it’s just wonderful and wish you every success with any plans, I’d be happy and very pleased to be able to visit, perhaps bring my own son who has only really known of it from mine and my sister Sarahs stories, despite having come on a visit as a small child.
Paul Fellows
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Wishing you every success in the future, kind regards Gordon Fellows 🤷♂️🙏
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Hi,
I fished the lake when I was young, probably around the age of 5 to 10 which would have been 1980 – 1985. I have very fond memories of fishing there with my father who has now passed away. It was the first lake I fished and I remember walking through the dew covered long grass at the break of dawn and under the low hanging trees that surrounded the lake and creeping to the mist shrouded waters edge. I have a photo of me as a lad proudly holding a small roach that I’d caught, although I do seem to recall that I spent most of the time there asking my dad to untangle my line or retrieve my end tackle from a tree.
I stopped fishing around 10 years old but always remained interested, and the interest was rekindled when I was 17 and I saw A Passion For Angling for the first time. Seeing Redmire pool brought back memories of the lake and I’ve been fishing ever since.
My father and I were reminiscing about the lake probably some 15 to 20 years ago and decided to pay a visit. We didn’t realise that it was no longer open to fishing and soon after driving down the lane a gentleman who must have been Mr. Greenwell (as my father recognised him from years before) approached us with a shotgun over his arm asking what we were doing on his land. He was very gracious and remembered my father and let us have a look at the lake for old times sake before going on our way.
I don’t typically contribute to social forums but thought I’d share the lovely memories.
Regards
Steve
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Dear Steve, Thanks for your Shermanbury memories, it seems a lot of anglers are very fond of the place. I was invited to drop by but in a funny sort of way Shermanbury Place seems to have a kind of Brigadoon quality that I don’t want to loose. I hope you are still fishing? regards Nick.
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I caught my first ever carp from Shermanbury when I was about 12 (circa 1979), after seeing an article in the angling press talking about the venue, my Dad brought me down from London in his Black Taxi Cab and after parking near the little cottage and climbing over the fence towards the river we set up and fished the river, we wanted to catch a pike but never succeeded.
So leaving my Dad to sunbathe by the river, I crept over to the lake rod in hand and tin of sweetcorn in the other and found a small entrance in the bushes that after crouching and squeezing through opened into a lovely swim looking on to an island straight ahead and a rush lined margin to the right and several lily pads dotted around.
I set up a float and put some corn on the hook and swung the line out, a little wait later and the float started to tremble before sliding away under the surface, I lifted the rod and was surprised to feel something fighting back (I had only ever caught small roach, bream etc up until this time) and was taken aback, the moment was brief and the line parted! – I ran back to my dad and explained what happpend.
I then swapped the rod to the pike rod we had been using with stronger line, and re-tackled the in the same way and quickly crept back into position, it was not too long before the same thing happened, but this time I was prepeared and managed to land a small but perfectly formed mirror carp of about 5lb – I had never seen anything like it, and I was absolutley buzzing.
I caught a couple more that day, we returned most Sundays thanks to my Dad, and soon had some proper ‘carp gear’.
During that summer all I could think about all week was the next fishing trip and this feeling will live with me forever.
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Thanks for sharing Stephen.
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Hello, I live very close to shermanbury place and have been fishing the river, I cannot seem to see the lake with brings me to the conclusion it has been filled in/dried up, Antonia has been fixing the place up recently and it is beginning to look better on the chance the lake is restored. I never got to see the lake and only heard of it a few months back.
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Hi Theo,
Please ask Antonia about the lake and get in touch,
thank you
TTS
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